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Old   September 6, 2018, 12:34
Default Why I cannot calculate the thrust of my nozzle?
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I have an axisymmetric domain that there is a nozzle in there. Here is a sketch of my domain





"Outlet-1" and "Outlet-2" is "Pressure-farfield" boundary condition and "Outlet-3" is "Pressure outlet" boundry condition. The inlet of this domain is also zoomed up and showed. I heard that I can use the properties of the domain to calculate the thrust but my effort failed. Here is the information of my domain that I got from Fluent:


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  Mass Flow Rate (kg/s)
  -------------------------------- --------------------
  inlet 0.3848487
  outlet1 1.5579536
  outlet2 20.835326
  outlet3 -22.802237
  ---------------- --------------------
  Net -0.024108255
  




  Mass-Weighted Average
  Velocity Magnitude (m/s)
  -------------------------------- --------------------
  inlet 173.49819
  outlet1 6.1609674
  outlet2 11.367706
  outlet3 110.55185
  ---------------- --------------------
  Net 62.176956
  


  Area-Weighted Average
  Static Pressure (pascal)
  -------------------------------- --------------------
  inlet 228198.8
  outlet1 111876.66
  outlet2 110103.08
  outlet3 101325
  ---------------- --------------------
  Net 109679.36

Here is one of my calculation:





I should've been made mistake to calculate the thrust.

Any idea to calculate the thrust would be appreciated!
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Old   September 6, 2018, 21:18
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocket_engine

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocket_engine_nozzle

read carefully

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Old   September 7, 2018, 03:52
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Thank you Alexander for your response,
There is a point about my problem.
To calculate the thrust of a Bell nozzle you can calculate its thrust easily using mass flow rate of the nozzle inlet and velocity at the exit of the nozzle (even you can get avarage pressure to calculate pressure thrust) but calculating the thrust of an Aerospike nozzle is challenging. You remember this topic:


How to calculate centerbody thrust of an aerospike nozzle in Fluent


Now I'm thinking to calculate the thrust using my domain not the nozzle.


Any idea?
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Old   September 7, 2018, 05:21
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Hi, Roh, you have set a very good example of asking questions. It makes rather easy for others to understand your point. well done!

Note that the momentum flux is a vector, so you have to use mass-averaged velocity component (axial-velocity in this case since you only interested in thrust) instead of velocity magnitude.
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Thank you Alexander for your response,
There is a point about my problem.
To calculate the thrust of a Bell nozzle you can calculate its thrust easily using mass flow rate of the nozzle inlet and velocity at the exit of the nozzle (even you can get avarage pressure to calculate pressure thrust) but calculating the thrust of an Aerospike nozzle is challenging. You remember this topic:


How to calculate centerbody thrust of an aerospike nozzle in Fluent


Now I'm thinking to calculate the thrust using my domain not the nozzle.


Any idea?
Hey Roh,

Did you find the answer to the question you posted? I'd appreciate your response.

Thanks
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Old   April 11, 2024, 16:17
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I believe the geometry is from the work of Prasanth P Nair on conical aerospike and bleed effect. Im also working on a project for my undergrad on linear aerospikes and we essentially used the thrust equation of an aerospike from the Rocket Propulsion Elements Textbook by Sutton to compute thrust coefficients.

Refer to the authors paper above and check out the equation used for thrust. Itll provide more clarity.
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