CFD Online Logo CFD Online URL
www.cfd-online.com
[Sponsors]
Home > Forums > Software User Forums > ANSYS > FLUENT

Sliding mesh issues

Register Blogs Community New Posts Updated Threads Search

Like Tree4Likes
  • 1 Post By price_s
  • 1 Post By vinerm
  • 1 Post By price_s
  • 1 Post By vinerm

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old   March 4, 2020, 06:37
Default Sliding mesh issues
  #1
New Member
 
Steffan Price
Join Date: Feb 2020
Posts: 6
Rep Power: 6
price_s is on a distinguished road
I have an analysis of a transverse axis tidal turbine in a channel. The turbine is rotating within the channel. Therefore a rotating mesh is used. I ran an initial analysis that gave reasonable results. However I created a new mesh, as there were some problems with the old mesh, i.e gaps at mesh interface and also to extend the mesh higher. The new mesh is near identical to the original. I also added gravity effects. Apart from these two changes I believe the set-up is the same. However the new analysis does not seem to be accurately modelling the interface, as can be seen in the velocity plot, there is a clear line at the interface. I've attached images of the velocity and pressure distributions for both cases. Any ideas as to why the new analysis does not seem to work as well?
Attached Images
File Type: jpg Velocity_original.jpg (51.8 KB, 19 views)
File Type: jpg Pressure_original.jpg (29.5 KB, 8 views)
File Type: png Gaps_original.PNG (41.4 KB, 11 views)
File Type: jpg Velocity_update.jpg (42.7 KB, 13 views)
File Type: jpg Pressure_update.jpg (43.4 KB, 9 views)
vavnoon likes this.
price_s is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   March 4, 2020, 06:46
Default Sliding Mesh and Physics
  #2
Senior Member
 
vinerm's Avatar
 
Vinerm
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Nederland
Posts: 2,946
Blog Entries: 1
Rep Power: 35
vinerm will become famous soon enough
Line depicting the interface is always there; it's only a matter of user's choice, whether user wants it to be displayed or not. It appears to be 2D simulation. For 2D cases, do no select any boundary while displaying Contours. Then, you won't see the line.
vavnoon likes this.
__________________
Regards,
Vinerm

PM to be used if and only if you do not want something to be shared publicly. PM is considered to be of the least priority.
vinerm is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   March 4, 2020, 06:49
Default
  #3
New Member
 
Steffan Price
Join Date: Feb 2020
Posts: 6
Rep Power: 6
price_s is on a distinguished road
Hi Vinerm,

I'm talking about in picture 4, the velocity plot for the new analysis, the turbine does not seem to affect the flow above the interface. Compared to picture 1, the original analysis, where there is a clear effect, which is what I would expect. Not about a line indicating where the interface is.
vavnoon likes this.
price_s is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   March 4, 2020, 07:18
Default Debugging the Interface
  #4
Senior Member
 
vinerm's Avatar
 
Vinerm
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Nederland
Posts: 2,946
Blog Entries: 1
Rep Power: 35
vinerm will become famous soon enough
I apologize for misunderstanding the situation. At this scale, the difference is not very clear.

I would suggest doing a simple check. Increase the viscosity to a very high value or use a very high rotation velocity to check if there is an effect across the interface or not. If it is not there, then check the type of interface. Sometimes, recreating the interface helps, particularly when you go from Serial to Parallel or vice-versa.
vavnoon likes this.
__________________
Regards,
Vinerm

PM to be used if and only if you do not want something to be shared publicly. PM is considered to be of the least priority.
vinerm is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   March 4, 2020, 09:38
Default
  #5
New Member
 
Steffan Price
Join Date: Feb 2020
Posts: 6
Rep Power: 6
price_s is on a distinguished road
Hi Vinerm, no worries about the misunderstanding. Thanks for the advice, the fluid is water at the moment, so viscosity fairly high already and a tip speed ratio of 3.5. Would you suggest increasing these further?
price_s is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   March 4, 2020, 09:40
Default
  #6
New Member
 
Steffan Price
Join Date: Feb 2020
Posts: 6
Rep Power: 6
price_s is on a distinguished road
I may have changed the solver settings inadvertently as the cases are being solved as a batch job on nodes on a shared computing system. So I will check the settings for this and for the fluent session that the case was created in.
price_s is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   March 4, 2020, 09:59
Default Viscosity
  #7
Senior Member
 
vinerm's Avatar
 
Vinerm
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Nederland
Posts: 2,946
Blog Entries: 1
Rep Power: 35
vinerm will become famous soon enough
For debugging, you need to increase the viscosity by 1000 times. That would be similar to assuming a homogeneous turbulence.
__________________
Regards,
Vinerm

PM to be used if and only if you do not want something to be shared publicly. PM is considered to be of the least priority.
vinerm is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   March 4, 2020, 10:42
Default
  #8
New Member
 
Steffan Price
Join Date: Feb 2020
Posts: 6
Rep Power: 6
price_s is on a distinguished road
Hi Vinerm, thanks for all the help. I've been back and remade the case from scratch. ensuring it was made with the same solver settings as the batch job solver and recreating the interface. Currently running a case for normal viscosity and x1000. I'll see what the results are in a few hours. Thank you
price_s is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   June 18, 2020, 12:57
Default
  #9
Member
 
vav noon
Join Date: May 2020
Posts: 49
Rep Power: 5
vavnoon is on a distinguished road
Hello everybody,

Many thanks for starting this thread and valuable comments.

I also face the same problem. I have a wavy cross-section. I made a structured mesh in ICEM. Because of the special cross-section, an undesirable dense mesh was created in the middle. So after trying several options in ICEM setting for resolving this issue, I decided to apply the non-conformal mesh method. Now the mesh looks somewhat better.

I simulated the fluid flow using FLUENT and ran two times, first with viscosity= 0.0006965 and then with viscosity=1 (units in SI).

The contours have been attached. Labels one and two are related to cases one and two, respectively.
In both cases interfaces are evident. Is this matter trivial?

Thanks for your time
Attached Images
File Type: png 1.PNG (69.9 KB, 6 views)
File Type: png 2.PNG (43.2 KB, 8 views)
File Type: png 3.PNG (43.8 KB, 6 views)
File Type: png 4.PNG (58.0 KB, 6 views)
vavnoon is offline   Reply With Quote

Reply

Tags
sliding mesh, vawt wind turbine


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
sliding mesh problem in CFX Saima CFX 46 September 11, 2021 07:38
Udf with a sliding mesh mani1455 Fluent UDF and Scheme Programming 0 April 16, 2014 05:21
3D Hybrid Mesh Errors DarrenC ANSYS Meshing & Geometry 11 August 5, 2013 06:42
Icemcfd 11: Loss of mesh from surface mesh option? Joe CFX 2 March 26, 2007 18:10
dynamic mesh and sliding mesh nasser FLUENT 0 November 1, 2005 02:37


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:19.