Second hand licence?!

elcino · November 2, 2013, 22:23

Hi,

I'm a researcher and I got a huge job from a company who would like to purchase the Ansys CFX licence and Gambit as well. I had a meeting with an Ansys vendor who offer me the product package for a bit more then 60kEuro excluded VAT of course (but I've asked just one).

Hence, I've started to search alternative ways. I've found that now, European Community open the possibility to sell and buy second hand license of softwares. This gave me some hopes to find some institution or company who wants to update its Ansys license and can consequently sell me the older version.

Here, the full news:

http://www.computerworld.com/s/artic...al_even_online

Some producers still pretend to do not accept the new EU court rules but, any way, every lawyer will confirm you what I'm saying that u can sell and buy a second hand license. Check this and let us know if you find a vendor who propose you this deal.

wyldckat · November 3, 2013, 06:03

Greetings Luca,

AFAIK, big software companies usually also constrain regarding which country the license is going to be used at.
One example is Mathworks and its MATLAB software, where (at least some time ago) the licensing instructions indicated that if a company has two offices on opposites sides of the planet (my wording), the licenses are not directly transferable and should be done only with the permission and payment of a transfer fee.

But still, if the transfer is done within the European zone, then perhaps there is no reason for having to renegotiate with the vendor

Best regards,
Bruno

julien.decharentenay · November 5, 2013, 00:38

Interesting case. I believe that the "traditional" model is: pay an upfront cost and then maintenance yearly. If the user onsells the license, then you would not have to repay the upfront cost. I also have a nagging feeling that EULA would include a clause to the effect that the user is not able to onsell the license. Would the EULA be deemed inadequate under the EU law or by accepting the EULA are you accepting the EULA applies to you?

Best of luck with finding a cost-effective license.

Julien

November 2, 2013, 22:23	Second hand licence?!	#1
elcino New Member Luca Gorasso Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Harbin, China Posts: 24 Rep Power: 14	Hi, I'm a researcher and I got a huge job from a company who would like to purchase the Ansys CFX licence and Gambit as well. I had a meeting with an Ansys vendor who offer me the product package for a bit more then 60kEuro excluded VAT of course (but I've asked just one). Hence, I've started to search alternative ways. I've found that now, European Community open the possibility to sell and buy second hand license of softwares. This gave me some hopes to find some institution or company who wants to update its Ansys license and can consequently sell me the older version. Here, the full news: http://www.computerworld.com/s/artic...al_even_online Some producers still pretend to do not accept the new EU court rules but, any way, every lawyer will confirm you what I'm saying that u can sell and buy a second hand license. Check this and let us know if you find a vendor who propose you this deal.

November 5, 2013, 00:38		#3
julien.decharentenay Senior Member Julien de Charentenay Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Australia Posts: 231 Rep Power: 17	Interesting case. I believe that the "traditional" model is: pay an upfront cost and then maintenance yearly. If the user onsells the license, then you would not have to repay the upfront cost. I also have a nagging feeling that EULA would include a clause to the effect that the user is not able to onsell the license. Would the EULA be deemed inadequate under the EU law or by accepting the EULA are you accepting the EULA applies to you? Best of luck with finding a cost-effective license. Julien __________________ --- Julien de Charentenay

November 3, 2013, 06:03		#2
wyldckat Retired Super Moderator Bruno Santos Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Lisbon, Portugal Posts: 10,975 Blog Entries: 45 Rep Power: 128	Greetings Luca, AFAIK, big software companies usually also constrain regarding which country the license is going to be used at. One example is Mathworks and its MATLAB software, where (at least some time ago) the licensing instructions indicated that if a company has two offices on opposites sides of the planet (my wording), the licenses are not directly transferable and should be done only with the permission and payment of a transfer fee. But still, if the transfer is done within the European zone, then perhaps there is no reason for having to renegotiate with the vendor Best regards, Bruno