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December 17, 1999, 07:59 
Axisymetric cone flare

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December 17, 1999, 10:56 
Re: Axisymetric cone flare

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If you have a conical shape, then you have axisymmetry: rotational symmetry around one of the axis. Then you are left to solve the problem in two dimensions, however, because of the symmetry you need to solve only for half of the (2D) computational domain (above and below the rotational axis the flow is symmetric). On the rotational axis you need to have the velocity normal to the rotational axis set to zero. The velocity parallel to the rotational axis needs to be symmetrical, which means that its DERIVATIVES needs to be set to zero. THis DOES NOT especially means that you have to set the ghost points to the same value, but that when you write down the derivative of the parallel velocity (at the point on the axis of rotation) its actual value must be zero. And this depends on your numerical scheme. In some numerical scheme seting the derivative to zero or seting the ghost points to the same value as the computational points is equivalent, but not always. So you need to write down the derivative in the difference form (the same way you solve the equations) and set it to zero. THIS will give you the value of the velocity at the ghost points and/or on the axis. The third velocity is the velocity rotating around the axis of rotation, and on the axis it must be zero. For the pressure, you need also to set its derivative (normal to the rotational axis) set to zero, and then obtain from there the value of the pressure on the axis or at the ghost points.
You need FIRST, however, to solve for the problem in axisymmetric coordinates (cylindrical coodrinates) and not CARTESIAN coordinates. You need (r,phi,z). Where, the zaxis is the axis of rotational symmetry. Then you will have on the zaxis: dVz/dz=0 (symmetry of Vz) Vr=0 (no flow accros the zaxis) Vphi=0 (the radius of rotation is zero, therefore Vphi=0) and in addition Vphi is antisymmetric on each side of the zaxis: Vphi on one side = Vphi on the other side dP/dr=0 (symmetry of P) So the first thing you need to do is write and solve the equations in a cylindrical coordinate system, using the above bondary condtions. You will also need to specify boundary coditions on the surface of the cone (I guess noslip boundary conditions). There is I guess one boundary with an inflowing flow and the other with outflowing and the last boundary is probably an open one. Cheers, Patrick 

December 17, 1999, 13:35 
Re: Axisymetric cone flare

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(1). If the code is a 3D code, then the mesh also has to be a 3D mesh. (2). If the geometry is axisymmetric, then you can first create a 2D mesh on one symmetric plane (rz plane) and then rotate it to create meshes in the theta direction. This will give you the complete 3D mesh. (3). If you assume the flow is also axisymmetric, then you can solve only a small sector in the theta direction, instead of the full 360 degree range. But you still need to have several mesh points in the theta direction to cover the symmetry plane boundary conditions in the theta direction. (at theta_zero and theta_max) (4). The extra grid points (or cells) outside the symmetry planes must also be generated in the same way as the interior points. (5). Along the axis, you can set the radial velocity to zero (you will have to do some calculation to convert it into 3D x,y,zcomponets. And the the thetadirection velocity is also zero. the combined effect is that the x,ycomponents of the velocity are zero along the axis. The only nonzero component is the Uz axial velocity. (even at the axis, you still have several mesh points in the theta direction. So, there will be several Uz at the axis.) (6). A better way to see it is to start the mesh or the computational domain at a very small radius from the axis, so that you can still have nonzero cell near the axis. The symmetric condition in the rdirection remains the same for each theta plane. (7). Basically, you have to deal with a 3D fan shaped mesh, (looking down stream along the axis.) and you still need several mesh points (cells) in the theta direction. ( the small needle size cylinder along the axis is not going to cause any problem ).(the other option is to use an axisymmetric version of the code. even in that case, it is a good idea to avoid the axis region first.)


December 17, 1999, 15:00 
Re: Axisymetric cone flare

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Thanks for getting back to me so quickly, Your advices are very helpful, hear from you soon, OMAR S.


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